Episode 343: Hell Part 1: H-E-Double Hockey Sticks

March 31, 2015


Featuring Matt Anderson and Ben De Bono

In this episode, we discuss the popularity of questioning Hell’s existence in today’s culture.

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6 comments on “Episode 343: Hell Part 1: H-E-Double Hockey Sticks

  1. Philip Apr 2, 2015

    Great show guys! I like to hear N.T. Wright and John Walton myself on biblical subjects. John Walton was recently on the Phil Vischer Podcast and the Unbelievable Podcast out of the U.K.
    And N.T. Wright has also appeared on Unbelievable. Here’s links to the episodes I’ve heard:

    N.T. Wright:



    John Walton:



    Thanks for the show, I’m looking forward to Part 2!

  2. Philip Apr 3, 2015

    That’s the book he discusses on both shows. And that’s a heckuva(pun intended) review on Goodreads. I see why you wrote that he seems very aware of criticism about Adam’s existence, he was definitely repeating that point. As far as Original Sin goes, he spoke on the Phil Vischer Podcast about the Tree of Life in the Garden of Eden, and that eating from it was what kept Adam and Eve from dying, and that they were not inherently immortal. He said the Tree was the remedy God provided for death and that sinning got them expelled from the Garden and access to that remedy. Pretty fascinating concept, and the reference to the Tree of Life in Revelation 2:7 seems to be in keeping with that idea as well. Did his book say anything about the Tree of Life?

    • Ben De Bono Apr 3, 2015

      I don’t recall him talking about the Tree of Life in Revelation, but he talk about the idea of the Tree of Life in Eden as a remedy to Adam & Eve’s preexisting mortality. It’s an interesting idea to be sure and one I find compelling.

      What’s unclear to me if he’s saying that the loss of the remedy amounts to what he considers to be the full effects of Original Sin. If that’s what he’s saying, I’d find that explanation to be insufficient. However, from reading the book it seems like he’d go beyond that to say that Original Sin also introduced a level of disorder into creation that was previously absent from it.

      It’s an issue where this book, unfortunately, struggles to be as focused and clear as the Genesis One book

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